Save What You Love with Mark Titus

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Mark Titus
Welcome to the Save What You Love podcast. I'm Mark Titus. Today I get to introduce you to my good friend Hannah Lux. Hannah has had the dubious distinction of cutting my hair for the last 20 years, and she has become one of my closest friends. I thought, what a great human being to talk about saving what you love in your community.

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Mark Titus
When I thought about Hannah the last time I got my haircut, after this COVID stuff started lighting up and and, you know, got to thinking about what she has endured as a small business owner, as a woman who runs a small business of her own as a mom who's been raising a BIPOC young man during this time of oppressed and incredible justice happening right in front of our eyes and as a really concerned citizen who's using her voice and her platform, she has a small but super vibrant and beautiful boutique here in Seattle, and she has been using totally recyclable and compostable and environmentally friendly products here for years.

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Mark Titus
She's also been donating with all of her transactions and creating fundraisers and raffles and all sorts of things, doing what she can to save the things in her community, in our community. And even bigger. She recently held a raffle that was donating to United Tribes of Bristol Bay. Our friends up north who are fighting the good fight for Bristol Bay.

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Mark Titus
The people on the ground there who we donate to, who are leading the charge for permanent protection in Bristol Bay. So Hannah Lux today, if you're enjoying this podcast, I say this every week, but I really appreciate it if you head out. Give us a rating on Apple Podcasts or write a review if you can. It helps us a ton getting the word out about this show.

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Mark Titus
Also, if you're looking for a solution for your summer grilling, head on over to Ava's wildcat com and get yourself a summer experience kit. It's also a great gift for dad for Father's Day. We're coming up on that. That's Ava's wild dot com. That's the word Save spelled backwards, evaswild.com. Hope you enjoy the show. We'll see you next week.

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Music
How do you say.

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Music
How do you save what you love?
When the world is burning down?
How do you save what you love?
When pushes come to shove.
How do you say what you love?
When things are upside down.
How do you say what you love?
When times are getting tough.

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Mark Titus
Hannah Lux, I'm so glad you're here. Hi.

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Hannah Lux
Good to see.

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Mark Titus
You. It's good to see you, too. Now, typically, we've got this thing reversed, and I'm sitting in front of you, and you're having your way with my hair. It could turn out well. It could. You've got my life in your hands, man.

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Hannah Lux
I do? Yeah. In a sense, it's just hair, though. It grows back.

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Mark Titus
It's true. We've been doing a little while.

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Hannah Lux
We have.

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Mark Titus
Haircutting. That is.

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Hannah Lux
20 years.

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Mark Titus
20 years? Yeah.

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Hannah Lux
Since the beginning.

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Mark Titus
Yeah, well, I think it's a good place to start our conversation with what you've been up to over the last calendar year, because we've all been going through the trip this year, in 100 years that you know, anybody can remember. But you've got some really incredibly poignant things that were especially memorable, I think, in that you're a small business owner, you're a woman, small business owner.

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Mark Titus
You are raising a young son who is Bipoc and you are you kind of have become people in my mind included therapists from time to time. People get their, you know, stuff out in your chair. We'll get to all of that. But first, generally, how was it for you this last year? How did you make it through?

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Hannah Lux
I mean, in general, I think I am one of the really lucky ones. I have a very small business and my overhead isn't crazy like some places are. And I really have been able to recover, I think, a lot faster and without as much pain as some. It took a lot of juggling. I had extra renters this summer, even though that was the kind of craziest time after reopening June 1st, I believe, last year.

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Hannah Lux
But juggling schedules was a small price to pay when it comes to being able to recoup some of the money that we lost for being closed for three months, which was really tough and scary.

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Mark Titus
So you were closed straight up for three months?

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Hannah Lux
Yes.

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Mark Titus
How did the kind of reentry process work for you and what happened during those three months? Like how did you honestly get by?

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Hannah Lux
I mean, unemployment got me by living in a awesome home with people. So I didn't feel lonely. And, you know, we all helped each other out. We all about groceries and all that kind of stuff. So, you know, we were fine in that sense, but it was a little weird. I've never not had anything to do, which that was really, really hard for me.

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Hannah Lux
Yeah, I bet I did all of the things for a few weeks until there was nothing left to do. And then I had to, like, get comfortable with, like, sitting with nothing and just spending time with my family. And, you know, obviously that's not difficult, but like, getting that unadulterated, like, unbothered time was now looking back on it, of course, very special.

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Hannah Lux
But at the time it was it felt really uncomfortable and, you know, worrying about your business the whole time. How long are we going to be closed for? We had zero idea how long it would last. I mean, it sounded like it would be a week. And then it was two more weeks and then it was the whole month.

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Hannah Lux
And then it just kept growing. So, yeah, it was really weird.

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Mark Titus
Well, okay, so hovering on this for just a moment. Yeah, for recovery. Folk out there like me sitting and stuff is really weird. It's really, it's really hard. And I mean, I think anybody that's in that world who has been through addiction would agree that sitting in your own feelings and finding space inside yourself, to have those thoughts and feelings in in a way that's productive and healthy and just being present is super difficult.

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Mark Titus
So in a weird way, folks in my like the recovery community were kind of perfectly tuned for this kind of thing is we have to do that stuff. But it's super interesting to check in with other people that, you know, don't have that as part of their every single day tool kit. And you said something interesting. You said, you know, like it was for a while now, it became something now that we appreciate, you know.

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Mark Titus
Do you think moving forward here, there are lessons that you've learned just on a personal level, and we'll go into the business here in a minute, but that you want to take and push forward into regular life from this point on, learning what we learn from this this year, that wasn't for sure.

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Hannah Lux
I always thought I did a good enough job spending quality time with my family or taking time off or doing things for myself or whatever I needed. But I really don't think I ever did a very good job of that. And I did learn that lesson in that time that I got to spend, you know, at home. And then like we were beginning to talk about the reentry into working again last summer, we had to slow way down like we couldn't be just productive.

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Hannah Lux
We couldn't just double book. We couldn't just cram people in. I worked longer days, but everything was more spread out and therefore slower cause we had to do all of this extra cleaning that we weren't used to doing in between. We couldn't pack people in. And I don't want to go back to that pace. Every once in a while I have like two people in a household together that I double book and man, that kicks my butt and it definitely takes more out of me.

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Hannah Lux
And so I think my take away is like slowing down, like just keep focused on good quality and good time with people and not make myself or the person in the chair feel rushed at all. Just chill out a little bit. And that goes for personal life, too.

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Mark Titus
Well, I've watched you move your little shell from a few different places, like your physical space. You know, the your your salon. And I know what attention to detail you put into things. And since the pandemic and I've been getting haircuts, you've got a perfectly regimented little protocol. Like how did you go about figuring that out as a small business owner?

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Mark Titus
And like, what did how did you put that all together?

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Hannah Lux
Well, back to the not having anything to do, I could really focus on that as it looks like we were starting to open again. I mean, I was reading every update from the state and all kinds of stuff from the CDC and all of whatever came out. I was reading it in preparation and it gave me something to do and something to focus on.

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Hannah Lux
And I was frankly afraid to open my business. I at the time thought that we maybe shouldn't be in phase two of opening, that maybe we should be at a later phase just because we have to be so close to people. So I spent a lot of time reading all of the lists and the the mandates and the recommendations from not only the CDC, but like the cosmetology board and stuff like that to see what we needed to do.

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Hannah Lux
And then I mean, that's just what I focused my stress on was organizing how that was going to work for us after doing stuff a certain way for almost 20 years. At that point, it was really hard to like totally switch it up and add a whole bunch of new steps and procedures so I just broke it down and talked with my two people that were working with me at the time, and we figured out a way that would work for each guest as they came in.

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Hannah Lux
And then what would allow for enough time in between each client to do all of the different steps of cleaning. So we kind of put that together together.

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Mark Titus
So we're going to move on to one of the other hats you wear here in just a sec as a mom. But before we depart, everybody who is a small business owner, I understand this. Everybody that knows this world, especially in the last year, knows how scary it's been and the challenges in our own particular fields. I deal with food and in some capacity.

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Mark Titus
And so it had its own challenges, but I know that you had some unique challenges, too, as a stylist and you kind of alluded to it a minute ago, but like what were some of the things that were unique to your industry that that you had to adapt to?

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Hannah Lux
Well, I mean, there is no social distancing with your client. I mean, in take out and stuff like that. There are ways to like have a pick up table, you know, and there's like zero contact or whatever. That's just not an option for any kind of personal service, for that matter. So, I mean, we got to ditch some of this stuff fairly soon after starting, but things like we had to like wear a different thing over our clothes, not just an apron, but to keep everything off.

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Hannah Lux
And we were supposed to change it in between every client and the different kinds of wiping down. But we also needed to have, you know, a face mask and a face shield and all of these things. And it was just a little more nerve wracking because when you're told you're supposed to stay six feet away from everybody, and then now all of a sudden I'm like six inches away from your face at the shampoo bowl is kind of nerve racking.

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Hannah Lux
And like one of the recommendations was or suggestions was to put a towel on your client's face while they're laying back at the shampoo bowl. And we chose not to do that because it made people uncomfortable.

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Mark Titus
So we were on hand for your personalized waterboarding.

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Hannah Lux
I know, right? Would that make you feel comfortable? I'm no. Like, claustrophobic. Yeah. So we wore our mask and shield always at the shampoo bowl in that early times. But yeah, being that close to people when you're told to stay the hell away from everybody is pretty uncomfortable. Even when there are people that you like are comfortable being close to.

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Hannah Lux
Nerve racking.

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Mark Titus
God, I thought about you many times during this and about that in particular. And are you back on the trajectory here of moving and shaken and the business is picking up?

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Hannah Lux
Yeah, no, we're good. We've definitely stuff just took longer in the beginning, but everything's kind of smoother and more fine tuned. Things don't take as long. Like I said before, we're not going to go back to like the manic way of scheduling and stuff ever, I don't think. But with all of the rules loosening up and what we know about the virus so much more now, and with all of the vaccinating that's happening, it's a lot more comfortable on the the weight is kind of off of our shoulders for sure.

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Hannah Lux
And a lot of people I mean, pretty much everybody come back now. We had a small number of people that were waiting until they got vaccinated. So we're now seeing all of them back in, which is really nice, cutting off lots and lots of hair.

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Mark Titus
Yay. I bet you. I bet you are. So while this was going on a year ago, this whole disruption and anxiety and uncertainty, there was also a lot of civil unrest about justice. And I know that this has a very personal bent in in raising Skye and raising your son. And I would just love to hear and I think we'd all love to hear from your eyes.

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Mark Titus
What was that like as a mom watching George Floyd unfold this what seems to be a tipping point and how did you how did you assimilate that information and what did you say to your son? And then how did you guys move through that together?

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Hannah Lux
Well, that's tough. It was it was a it was really hard to navigate, especially as a white woman. You know, I don't I don't have those struggles on a daily basis when I leave the house and stuff. But even my son at the time, you know, he was 12, now 13 understands those fears and those worries. And I have a different fear and worry as a mom, no matter who I am or what I look like, that, you know, every time my kid leaves the house, like, what does that mean?

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Hannah Lux
You know, is he going to be safe out there? Somebody's going to flip on him for no reason. You know, is he going to be okay? Like at a horrible fear already that you already have as a parent in general? But then as all of this was unfolding last spring, it really just brought it all right to everybody's front door.

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Hannah Lux
There is no escaping that. You we all had to you know, I don't know what the right word is other than man up, but that's a horrible way to say that. But just to, like, buck up and face it and see it for what it is. And my kid really wanted to know about it all and he wanted to see it all and he wanted to go down to protests and stuff.

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Hannah Lux
And we watched them on TV because after the first one went pretty south, we just I didn't feel like it was the same thing to take him to. And his dad definitely didn't want him going. So we struggled for a while. And I think I even reached out to you because we were looking for something to do, like we needed to be a part of the change.

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Hannah Lux
He really wanted to be a part of it, like he wanted to be out there with his fist in the air, you know, screaming and yelling and, you know, being a part of it. And he was just too young to do that safely at that time. It was kind of scary. So anyway, we reached out to you and we thought about helping out with the cleaning up and all that kind of stuff.

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Hannah Lux
And we looked into a bunch of avenues and then he had heard about a small kid's protest that happened in South Seattle, but he didn't get to go to because it was one of those. We heard about it afterwards and was like, Well, why can't we do that? You know, up here in our neighborhood? And he had talked to his friends and people, you know, other kids wanted to be a part of doing something to, you know, they don't like watching all this happen on TV and not know what to do with it.

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Hannah Lux
So he suggested we try to get some buddies together just to, like, do a little protest outside of his elementary school because he was in middle school then. But that school is just down the street from our house and in me emailing the parents of these kids, word spread and all of a sudden it was like the whole neighborhood and businesses in the neighborhood and everybody wanted to help be a part of it.

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Hannah Lux
And it turned out to be a really big thing. It was like 300 people showed up and we got two businesses to donate to BLM and his name for the protest. And it was a really, really fun day. And these kids got to make their own signs and be a part of it, you know, and feel like they got to do something and use their voice because kids don't really get to do that, you know?

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Hannah Lux
But yeah, it's it's just it's complicated that so many feelings and emotions and I still don't know if I have the right conversations with him about what to do in the world as a as a kid of color. I really don't. It's hard.

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Mark Titus
You know, I think, though, that as I'm listening to you and we're all listening to you tell a story, it's really you. You did it. You've found a way to do something together. And how did I feel about that effort and what came out of it? And just being a part of something in the way that you were able to be a part of something.

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Hannah Lux
I think he was really surprised and overwhelmed, and I think part of him wanted it to just be his his friends, you know? But when he saw all of these people that showed up in support, I think he really killed he just totally loved it. It was just made him feel full, I guess. You know, he's just he was very proud of himself afterwards and was glad that so many other kids like him got to do something.

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Hannah Lux
You know, and not just sit home and watch it on TV. You know?

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Mark Titus
Has it affected school life in terms of how things are taught or what kind of discussions you're having around the dinner table?

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Hannah Lux
I don't think it's changed school. You mean like at school? Yeah, not so much. I mean, it's hard to say because I don't go to school, right? So I don't know what Maybe you would end up happening if they were there. But his history teacher the second semester, I thought, did a very good job of addressing a lot of different stuff from the insurrection to to civil rights stuff.

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Hannah Lux
And they actually read, you know, stamped from the beginning by every Mexican. They he made a version called Stamped for Teenage readers. And they read that in their history class, like the entire first quarter they spent reading that book, which was great. And I don't know that that's part of their normal curriculum. So yeah, it's changed that in a sense.

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Hannah Lux
It's definitely brought way more conversations up at home, just about civil rights and all of that kind of stuff. He watched Malcolm X with his dad and like he's is definitely more into learning about all of the history of the civil rights to not just what's happening right now. So yeah, I mean it has changed conversations for sure that we have.

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Mark Titus
Well he is a great kid. We got to shoot a really fun piece for the Nature Conservancy a couple of years ago together. Yeah, that was sweet. On a summer day and people got to wade in the water and looking forward to some of that. And I know that the outdoors is a big part of how you raise the sky and it's been a big part of your life.

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Mark Titus
How is the appreciation for the wild fold into your the way that you raise your son? And and now, Joey, now you're your husband is also into camping and doing this stuff. Like what is it about heading out into the wild that feeds you guys?

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Hannah Lux
I think it's that like being totally unplugged. Like nobody can ask anything of you. It's like, really true free time. And there's just something about the woods that is like no other place for me. That's where, like, my heart is full. I love the woods. People are like, you know, ocean people or mountain people. I am a woods person.

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Hannah Lux
I don't care where the woods are, but so that just makes me feel good to be in the trees. But also, just like I said, that completely detached from all of the regular stuff we don't have screens because half of the time there isn't wi fi or whatever or cell service. And just like living with simplicity, even though typically now we car camp with the kids and that requires stuff, it's a lot less stuff than what you have at home, you know.

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Hannah Lux
And I grew up backpacking and that's way less stuff and that's what I love. That's my favorite kind of camping. And that's part of it is the simplicity. Like you take just what you need because you don't want to carry a bunch of you don't want to carry a bunch of crap. And yeah, and it's you just figure out like, I don't need all of this stuff and look at how happy I am.

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Hannah Lux
And how beautiful this is. And you get to focus on the natural beauty instead of all of the distractions.

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Mark Titus
I'm so with you. I am into paring everything down every chance for, like, everything now. I mean, I try to get out and fly fish once a week or at least walk the river or or hike or something. But I found the last couple of weeks I've been going out to the Snoqualmie River. I, I don't have a vest.

00:24:20:22 - 00:24:49:22
Mark Titus
I don't have a jacket with a bunch of stuff. It's like I've got hemostats and like an extra spool of tippet and like, I just shove it into my way. I just want to be minimal. Yeah. Do you find that there is sort of a. An entry period with a guy and then your husband also has kids? And so now when you've got the whole crew together, what does it look like, unplugging those rascals?

00:24:49:23 - 00:25:00:16
Mark Titus
Like, can you visibly see the difference in their between bleeping and flipping on the thing and then what it looks like at the end of a trip going out into the woods?

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Hannah Lux
for sure. They definitely are different. They they're just they get their ideas out better, for lack of a better term. You know, they run around and they get super dirty and they stink. And it's they just have a good time. They turn over rocks and collect worms for they can fish and, you know, they're exhausted at night and they sleep really well and they eat way more food.

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Hannah Lux
And by the end of it, you know, I mean, they're just sure they come home and they get back on screens, but not in with the same intensity, you know, But they never complain about not having it out there. They always find stuff to do and they get creative, you know?

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Mark Titus
How long do you think it takes to, you know.

00:25:46:06 - 00:25:47:11
Hannah Lux
The to undo?

00:25:47:11 - 00:25:48:18
Mark Titus
Yeah, to undo like.

00:25:48:21 - 00:26:08:23
Hannah Lux
No time really. They get out of the car, I'm like, yeah, this is great. Check this out. You know they want to see the, the new surroundings and check out what our campsites like and where are we going to put the, the hammocks and all of that stuff. I mean when I was really little, the first thing you do when you get out of the car is go pee in the bushes, you know, like he wants to like it.

00:26:08:23 - 00:26:10:11
Mark Titus
Sounds about right. Yeah.

00:26:10:13 - 00:26:12:12
Hannah Lux
You know, But yeah, it takes.

00:26:12:12 - 00:26:14:18
Mark Titus
And it's hardwired and.

00:26:14:20 - 00:26:22:11
Hannah Lux
It takes no time to unplug, it seems like, because it's just the excitement of the new place. Nothing else matters.

00:26:22:13 - 00:26:47:17
Mark Titus
That's inspiring. That's hopeful. I know with our ten nieces and nephews, it's pretty similar. Like get them out in the boat or out in the water and connecting with the fish, touching a fish, seeing what that's like and something happens. It's just and it's, you know, I just get out of the way, you know, try to be out of the way.

00:26:47:17 - 00:27:07:13
Mark Titus
And that is that thing that is bigger than us. There's this connection to the universe that that you find in the wild and it's really cool every time you post pictures or we get to hang out. I just love seeing that delight in the kids eyes.

00:27:07:19 - 00:27:09:03
Hannah Lux
Yeah, he loves it.

00:27:09:08 - 00:27:43:06
Mark Titus
Yeah, well, look for the environment there. You know, if you've watched my film The Wild Zar performance, a beautiful artist does these landscapes in the Arctic and she talks about her approach to her art in the film. And she says ultimately, you know, it's addressing climate change and she's capturing these landscapes before they disappear. But she also says that it's overwhelming thinking about the size of the problem and all of the problems we face.

00:27:43:08 - 00:28:12:06
Mark Titus
I know I feel that way from time to time. Like most times I know you. Most of us all feel that way. But I have noticed step by step, row by row that, you know, when I come into your shop and check out the boutique, you've always got some new product or you've always got some some way to find a way to make a difference, to plug in to save what you love and in your own way.

00:28:12:08 - 00:28:16:01
Mark Titus
Can you talk about using your business as advocacy?

00:28:16:03 - 00:28:46:08
Hannah Lux
Yeah. I feel like we all have a responsibility to do something small, like no matter what it is because it is too big for us to conjure a solution like it's crazy overwhelming. So yeah, any way that we can find to do that, I'm down to do it. So my industry particularly makes a ton of trash. Like the waste is just ridiculous.

00:28:46:08 - 00:29:18:12
Hannah Lux
All the foils and the chemicals and all of that, the disposal stuff, you know, it's gross, it's awful. So a company I don't know when they started, but a little while ago, it's called Green Circle Salons, and they are a recycling company for salons only salons and, you know, nails, tacks. And they do all of that. So they take basically what equates to 95% of our waste.

00:29:18:12 - 00:29:51:10
Hannah Lux
And either recycles it or disposes of it properly. So it doesn't end up in our waterways or in landfills. Foils, for instance, get turned into bicycle parts and stuff like that. And they even have a PPE program now where you can collect anything, PPE from gloves to masks to shields, all of the things even, you know, Clorox wipes you can put in there, and they send it to a partner company that incinerates it.

00:29:51:10 - 00:30:14:08
Hannah Lux
But this company that does that uses the steam produced from that to power their facility in the neighborhood around them. And the ash that's created from it gets used in concrete so it all gets reused instead of just ending up in landfills. I mean, you know, we see masks in the gutters and on the beach and everywhere. Now it's gross.

00:30:14:08 - 00:30:37:08
Hannah Lux
But like, we can't get away from yet, you know, so trying to do things like that, that was a that was a big thing. I wanted to do that last year and the pandemic kind of, you know, made that more difficult. So I didn't but got it going in December and then just trying to pick lines that align with that sort of mentality, too.

00:30:37:08 - 00:30:43:01
Hannah Lux
I carry a line of solid shampoo and conditioner now, which I really like. I use exclusively at home.

00:30:43:01 - 00:30:44:06
Mark Titus
Solid with that mean so.

00:30:44:07 - 00:31:08:15
Hannah Lux
Means it's in a bar like a like a body bar. It comes in a a recycled and recyclable obviously cardboard box and it's just a little bar of shampoo. So it's concentrated. It doesn't have water in it like you would have in your bottled shampoo. So it's zero waste. I mean, you use it until it's gone and, you know, that's it.

00:31:08:21 - 00:31:16:20
Hannah Lux
I put mine in jars and just keep them out of the stream of water in your shower so they don't wash away. Just like a bar. Soap. And. And you're good to go.

00:31:16:22 - 00:31:18:03
Mark Titus
People Are people digging them.

00:31:18:06 - 00:31:43:02
Hannah Lux
Yeah. Yeah. People dig them. So I have it's called High Bar and it's the first salon grade solid shampoo that I could find. And there are a bunch more little indie companies that do that now that I would be interested in the future. And then I have another line that is into trying to get rid of the throwaway culture to in a slightly different way, because you can't make bars out of everything, obviously.

00:31:43:04 - 00:32:05:00
Hannah Lux
But they have these gorgeous glass containers that house their product and then you so you buy that one time and when you are ready for more, you buy a refill that has like two volumes of that in it and you refill it. So it's significantly less trash. It's not zero waste, but every little bit.

00:32:05:02 - 00:32:08:09
Mark Titus
So right then do I come to you to refill these things and.

00:32:08:09 - 00:32:24:06
Hannah Lux
Yeah, so you would come to me so next to where you would buy the, you know, the first one that you buy would be a refill pouch. So the next time you come in, you buy a refill pouch and you take it home and you fill it up and you have two amounts of whatever that product is.

00:32:24:06 - 00:32:50:09
Mark Titus
Awesome. Awesome. I do the Dr. Bronner's thing a lot. And but I think that another thing that's occurring to me is we're talking is I look to you as an innovator. I mean, you come up with these ideas in these products and you go and find these things. But as a small business yourself, and then some of these folks are also small businesses.

00:32:50:11 - 00:33:18:14
Mark Titus
How do you how have you found the ability to stay sustainable as a business without, you know, creating a monster, huge product out in the world that is, you know, mass produced? And how does it work? I mean, you know, it's tough, right, to to go out and do things a different way. What's what's your advice for for other folks like us that are small business owners?

00:33:18:16 - 00:33:43:20
Hannah Lux
I mean, I spent time Googling and I've had stuff just pop up and Instagram, to be honest. I found I found both of the lines. I was just talking about the high bar and that Colton King is the other on on Instagram and just spent some time Googling them and reading about them and found out that they're small businesses, which I like to I like to help too.

00:33:43:20 - 00:34:06:22
Hannah Lux
I like to be a part of that. But like Colton King, for instance, they only sell to small businesses. You can't buy it if you have, you know, more than like two locations and things like that. So they they focus on the little guy, which I of course appreciate it as well. But yeah, to be honest, I found a lot of it just on social media and then just spent some time looking into it.

00:34:06:22 - 00:34:15:01
Hannah Lux
And that leads to other lines that I can then compare right to land where I do.

00:34:15:03 - 00:34:36:06
Mark Titus
But we're going to dive into social media in a second. But what about for the consumer and making something that a product that is affordable for? It seems to me that if we're really going to turn the tide, things do have to come to scale in some way, shape or form. Which what are your thoughts? What are your insights on that?

00:34:36:06 - 00:34:56:03
Mark Titus
Like how to I'll give you an example on my side. You know this there there's we sell Bristol Bay sockeye salmon and it costs a certain amount to for the fishermen to pull it out of the sea for the processor to process it to then barge it in mass down here. We're lucky It's a it's a great story, actually.

00:34:56:03 - 00:35:22:12
Mark Titus
The carbon footprint is very, very small because it's all barge together, but it's still it kind of costs what it costs. You know, you can get price breaks on volume like anything else, but like there's a certain, you know, amount you you've got to pay. And so in this regard, those of us that want to do right and do good, we want to make that available to as many people as we can.

00:35:22:13 - 00:35:45:16
Mark Titus
In my case, I'd like to try to make pink salmon, for instance, available to folks. You know, it's it's kind of had a bad rap in the past because it wasn't handled correctly during the processing. And there's lots better ways to do it now, like bleeding them immediately. And I sing them immediately and so that's one way in in the salmon world.

00:35:45:21 - 00:36:06:00
Mark Titus
In your world, what does that look like? How how do we start bringing these concepts and affordability to more people? Or maybe it's even more about the story to more people to get on board in mass to really work towards sustainability as a culture?

00:36:06:02 - 00:36:29:21
Hannah Lux
Well, I don't get to I don't have control over what things cost to that I sell. Right. So even though sure, I buy them at wholesale price, I sell them at their set retail price, Right. So I mean, I definitely tried to choose lines that I think are reasonable price so that people can afford to buy into my, you know, want to help them be sustainable.

00:36:29:21 - 00:36:54:03
Hannah Lux
On my being sustainable. All right. But that's that's as much as I can do. Like, I don't I don't get to have control over that because I don't make the products. But I think the story is more important, right? Like that, explaining why it's important to like, you know, spend $35 on this product. But like, think about it.

00:36:54:03 - 00:37:16:18
Hannah Lux
You get this really great reusable glass jar that is great for the environment. It's not plastic and you get to refill it so it's cheaper in the future. But you're investing this one time and this one thing that might be a little bit more than your regular price point, but look at how much less trash you're creating with this one thing, you know.

00:37:16:18 - 00:37:40:20
Hannah Lux
So I think it's more for me and the salon world, it's more about the story. It's it is about choosing properly for sure what lines I carry so that they are high quality but yet are affordable, but also sharing the story properly so people understand what they're buying into and why it's important and that it's totally worth it.

00:37:40:22 - 00:38:04:23
Mark Titus
I couldn't agree more. That's that is absolutely the tip of the spear for the work I'm doing, too. It's obviously, you know, comes down to telling that story and wanting to be a part of that story. And I think it's like Tom Douglas will tell you to like he as a restaurateur here in Seattle. He has been working on creating realistic portion sizes because we throw out.

00:38:05:01 - 00:38:05:15
Hannah Lux
So much.

00:38:05:20 - 00:38:41:13
Mark Titus
Unseemly amounts of food, it's like 35%. It's it's unbelievable. So helping to tell that story about maybe you don't need something this big. You, you know, get something that you will be able to use over time that's valuable, that makes you feel good and it helps the planet same time. That's not where you stop, though. You do other things for activism out of your little moxie beauty boutique and it makes me so proud.

00:38:41:15 - 00:39:07:11
Mark Titus
Very recently you were doing a raffle with and we were providing some salmon and and you had decided to donate everything out of this raffle to United Tribes of Bristol Bay. Can you tell us a little bit about that raffle, why you did that? And then more kind of more on your Giving Back program and how it works?

00:39:07:13 - 00:39:28:11
Hannah Lux
Well, that's another thing I just feel like is an important responsibility that we all have right in some way. We've got to figure out a way to to give back however we can. And I don't you know, we don't make a ton of money at the salon and stuff like we're good, but, you know, we're not like some huge corporation.

00:39:28:13 - 00:39:47:06
Hannah Lux
So, you know, any little thing I think matters and makes a difference. So we try to like quarterly ish put together some kind of a fundraiser. We have we've worked with Mary's place for the holidays a lot. We do that a lot.

00:39:47:07 - 00:39:48:11
Mark Titus
Is Mary's place.

00:39:48:13 - 00:40:07:05
Hannah Lux
Mary's Place is a organization. I think it's centered in downtown Seattle, but they have a few locations that help house families and they're really great organization. But yeah, anyway, where was I?

00:40:07:06 - 00:40:10:22
Mark Titus
Sorry, I shouldn't have jumped in. You were talking about quarterly.

00:40:10:23 - 00:40:11:13
Hannah Lux
Me to tell you.

00:40:11:13 - 00:40:13:23
Mark Titus
About. Yeah. And that the Bristol Bay.

00:40:13:23 - 00:40:39:14
Hannah Lux
Yes, the United Tribes of Bristol Bay. So when it came close to April, we were wanting to pick something that was more environmental related, being that it's Earth Month, we really wanted to support something like that. And years ago when I worked for Aveda, we always fundraised for the Puget Sound Keepers, which is great, but they're huge organization and they get a lot more money.

00:40:39:14 - 00:41:05:10
Hannah Lux
And I kind of was more interested in helping something smaller or something that maybe needs more, like there should be more awareness about it doesn't get as doesn't get talked about as much. So I reached out to you and you gave me some great options, some of which I may, you know, go back to actually. But we thought the salmon idea was really great because, I mean, the is a huge part of the whole northwest, right?

00:41:05:10 - 00:41:14:19
Hannah Lux
Like we all I mean, I grew up here and that there's some of the early memories I have are like smoked salmon and you know I love.

00:41:15:01 - 00:41:48:22
Mark Titus
Seafood Well favorite and Ballard I mean the there's a large part of the fleet in Bristol Bay. yeah. Is directly from here. I mean folks think you know it's a lot of times it's just it's way up there and right here. Yeah. And it is. And that food then comes to the rest of the country. And I think, you know, after years now of talking about this kind of at least ten years, you know, I've obviously been pitching the case that this is kind of our birthright.

00:41:48:22 - 00:41:57:21
Mark Titus
It's a national treasure. It's the last kind of thing in the form that it's in. Yep. And so good on you. That was awesome.

00:41:57:23 - 00:42:15:06
Hannah Lux
It was it was a fun one to do. It really was. I mean, my my aunt and uncle were both in the fishing industry for forever. And so that's I definitely have connections to that. And it just felt right. So we thought we would take a different approach. And we did a raffle this year for that and that worked out really well.

00:42:15:06 - 00:42:34:13
Hannah Lux
I definitely think we'll probably do more raffles in the future, but we just put together a basket of there were some products, we put the shampoo and conditioner bars in there. It was all eco friendly stuff that we put in there, some reusable like, you know, silicone containers instead of plastic bags, that kind of thing. And then your salmon.

00:42:34:18 - 00:42:49:13
Hannah Lux
And actually one of my great friends when that raffle, he owns a a small business too. He owns a restaurant and he has definitely been working hard this year. So it felt really good that he won. That was it was pretty cool. But yeah.

00:42:49:15 - 00:42:51:13
Mark Titus
Lovely. That's good all the way.

00:42:51:13 - 00:43:04:03
Hannah Lux
Around trying to like get the word out a little bit. We got to share information about Salmon and Bristol Bay and what the United Tribes of Bristol Bay do as an organization. So it was.

00:43:04:03 - 00:43:28:12
Mark Titus
Well, I'm sure Alana and Lindsey and Sally, among others at UTB up in Dillingham, appreciate that. And, you know, just it is they are the tip of the spear in the fight to save the world's last fully intact wild salmon system, Rightly so. They're the people that have been there for over 4000 years. They know it best. I want to talk to you about social media for a minute.

00:43:28:14 - 00:44:13:00
Mark Titus
Okay. Okay. So Both as a small business owner and mom and I spent about three days in Telluride, Colorado, in the fall. Last fall, it was pretty much the only thing I did. I left Seattle to go do because we showed the wild outside at this thing called Original Thinkers. It was an amazing piece and an amazing event that was all distanced and it's kind of this outdoor church thing, but one of the speakers was Jeff Orlowski, who's the director of The Social Dilemma, and it deals with with Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and how we are the product.

00:44:13:00 - 00:44:32:15
Mark Titus
If we're not paying for it, we're the product. Now, I know full well, you know, for a while social media, as a small business owner is kind of a necessary evil. How do you strike a balance in your life as the business owner part of you, and then also as a mom with a young son who is like, how do you navigate that?

00:44:32:15 - 00:44:48:04
Mark Titus
Like it's ubiquitous. You don't want to deprive young people like the common language that everyone's speaking, but it's also really pernicious. It's it's insidious and it What are your thoughts on it?

00:44:48:06 - 00:45:14:02
Hannah Lux
Well, I don't let my kid on social media, he has no social media account. I figure that's a bridge we'll cross when we get to high school. Maybe. But I hate social media for that reason. It's just it's it's an ugly, ugly place for kids sometimes and for adults. I'm not good at social media when it comes to my business like I do it in spurts.

00:45:14:02 - 00:45:33:03
Hannah Lux
I feel like I get all like, you know, riled up to talk about certain things. And I do. And then I have to, like, take a break for a while because I just can't bring myself to do it all the time. I always want to be that person that posts hair pictures all the time and stuff too. But the reality is I just don't have time to do that again.

00:45:33:03 - 00:45:55:03
Hannah Lux
I do it in spurts. I'll save up pictures and I'll do do it for like two weeks. And then I'm like out of there for a month or so. It isn't. It is a necessary evil, though. Like people find you on social media. People like to, you know, know that you align with what they believe too, and they look for that on social media also.

00:45:55:03 - 00:46:17:11
Hannah Lux
And it's I try not to get wrapped up in like how many followers do I have and likes and all that crap because people get real obsessed with it and they're all it's it's too much. So I try to like, keep enough on there that shows that I'm active and shows a piece of what Moxie is like. But I don't do a lot in that department.

00:46:17:14 - 00:46:23:02
Mark Titus
Do you have like a set protocol? Like I'm only going to do it on this day or like for an hour this day or.

00:46:23:02 - 00:46:24:14
Hannah Lux
No, I should, but I.

00:46:24:14 - 00:46:26:20
Mark Titus
Don't. I'm working on that myself.

00:46:26:20 - 00:46:28:01
Hannah Lux
For your personal self or.

00:46:28:06 - 00:46:49:01
Mark Titus
For the whole thing. It's all kind of wrapped together, you know, in my world now. And not that I, you know, she's same thing. Like, I'm not on it all the time and I don't have tons and tons of followers or but you're right. I mean, it's it's like it's this common vernacular and that's how you people find what you're doing.

00:46:49:01 - 00:47:04:10
Mark Titus
And I've found it to be a really interesting balance. And especially it's got addictive tendencies big time. And I can see it like there's the dopamine hit and what's more of it. And so.

00:47:04:15 - 00:47:06:11
Hannah Lux
I'm bored. I have to have something to do.

00:47:06:13 - 00:47:27:17
Mark Titus
When we come clear back to the head of this thing, it's like, what? Can I just sit in my feelings right now? And in my environment that I'm in with the people I'm with and do or do I need to be stimulated all the friggin time? So where I'm at with this is like, yeah, I, I'm now scheduling.

00:47:27:19 - 00:48:09:17
Mark Titus
Okay, I will check it in the morning. I'll check it at lunchtime and check it in the evening. And that's, that's it. And if I've got something to post it's on a schedule and on we go. I certainly look with envy at, you know, folks that have these gorgeous curated profiles and it's it's cool. I mean, it looks beautiful, but I same as you like I just don't know where I can find the time to and I honestly I don't know for my mental health if I can devote it, you know we we've had folks like Domi on our team do the social media for a while and she got, you know, she was just

00:48:09:17 - 00:48:29:07
Mark Titus
cranking on it and she got kind of burnt. Yeah. It was during our our virtual tour and it was like a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. And it's taxing and it makes you feel kind of judgy on yourself. Like, man, I'm not coming up with the most original con, you know, this whole thing. And this wasn't something that we knew growing up.

00:48:29:07 - 00:48:31:12
Mark Titus
This is a brand new process.

00:48:31:12 - 00:48:46:10
Hannah Lux
Well, I'm like, what you just brought up there, like a whole bunch of different issues with the social media, right? I mean, there's like the the you know, the business stuff that's hard to keep up with. So I think you're, you know, being original all the time and making sure you're posting enough so people don't forget about you.

00:48:46:10 - 00:49:03:12
Hannah Lux
But then there's the personal world, too, and how judgy that gets, but also just the mindless scrolling and the onslaught of sometimes just horribly negative that is just too much. I mean, I go through times where I just have to take Facebook off my phone.

00:49:03:18 - 00:49:04:08
Mark Titus
Yeah.

00:49:04:10 - 00:49:21:00
Hannah Lux
I'll do that for for like a month or whatever. And I can, I'll look at it every once I'm on my computer, but I don't spend a lot of time, my computer, because I work not at a computer. So it makes it. So I'll I'll check it maybe once or twice a week, but then it'll end up back on my phone and then I end up into the same cycle again.

00:49:21:00 - 00:49:23:11
Hannah Lux
And then I have to quit it and get it off of there.

00:49:23:11 - 00:49:46:23
Mark Titus
But that's that's exactly that's the number one trick that Jeffrey Laski told me. And we were in Telluride like, have you deleted all of your. And he's like, No, I've kept them, but I took it off my phone so I can't have access. That's the kind of stuff that I have to do. Like if I need to make some sort of mental trick, I'm going to do it because otherwise it's just too easy to jump into that.

00:49:47:01 - 00:49:48:19
Hannah Lux
Yeah.

00:49:48:21 - 00:50:35:04
Mark Titus
So where do we go from here in this city, in this country that we're in? What are the lessons that you have taken to heart and obviously were? It's very malleable right now. Like we're in this very, you know, just reemerging phase and don't really know exactly what's going on here. But like, if you were to take a couple, two, three lessons that you want to integrate into your everyday life, your family life and your business practice, and then your role as a citizen, as a community member in this really challenging and dynamic place we're in.

00:50:35:06 - 00:50:37:21
Mark Titus
What are those two or three things?

00:50:37:23 - 00:51:04:12
Hannah Lux
Well, for one, I think we all should just slow down. And I think in slowing down, maybe we would see more things clearly, like when everything was closed last year and, you know, there were hardly any airplanes overhead. And, you know, we all just were stuck at home and spending time with family and learning how to navigate that.

00:51:04:12 - 00:51:28:15
Hannah Lux
Like we kind of all paid more attention to things and, you know, maybe just weren't so distracted. But I think that's important. So we all spend more time together and start caring about each other more. And not just our family, but about everybody. I think that's the biggest problem right now. Like people that don't want to wear a mask or whatever when they aren't vaccinated yet or whatever.

00:51:28:21 - 00:51:53:04
Hannah Lux
I mean, obviously that that's changing now too. But yeah, just like care about people and things more care about the everything more because we can't just do it all on our own. We kind of all have to be working on this together. Like what you brought up about the environment. It's overwhelming when you think about it as one big problem.

00:51:53:04 - 00:52:04:14
Hannah Lux
Like we can't solve that just ourselves. But if we all do tiny little things, then maybe we can make a difference. And that sounds so cliche, but it's really true.

00:52:04:16 - 00:52:33:09
Mark Titus
It's completely true. You also have had another role that I wanted to dive into a little bit more with our closing time here. Besides being a small business owner, a mom, a wife, a mensch, a good egg in the community, you've kind of been a mental health counselor, almost like a receptacle for people's angst. During this time, I heard a really compelling news story about this.

00:52:33:09 - 00:52:46:00
Mark Titus
Like people are going to their barbers and their stylists and their hair cutters and unloading. Like what that like, and how did you cope with that?

00:52:46:02 - 00:53:20:22
Hannah Lux
That was that was surprisingly difficult some days more than others, for sure. I mean, we've always been that right. But it's usually, you know, not everybody at the same time, it's having this depressed cloud that they're living in, that they have no new things to talk about because they don't do anything. So it's just not so concentrated. But there was a good chunk of time there where it was pretty it was pretty hard because nobody had fun to talk about or knew to talk about.

00:53:21:00 - 00:53:39:19
Hannah Lux
They were sad, they missed their family, and it was the same story over and over again. Or they would sit down and they just wouldn't feel like they had anything to say and they'd just be more quiet and more down. And, you know, not that it was a bad thing, but it just made it so that I would then talk more and try to lift them up.

00:53:39:19 - 00:54:04:11
Hannah Lux
And that takes a different level of emotional energy. Right. And it's it was it was tough, but I think it was kind of more like after the holidays, after those huge spikes happened, that people slowly started coming out of that. There was a lot of talk during the holidays about seeing families and feeling guilty about seeing families and all that kind of stuff, too, which was a little awkward.

00:54:04:11 - 00:54:06:09
Hannah Lux
I had some pretty sad stories.

00:54:06:10 - 00:54:06:20
Mark Titus
Really.

00:54:06:23 - 00:54:14:12
Hannah Lux
After the holidays to families that shouldn't have gathered. The dead. And so, I mean, yeah, I've heard it all and.

00:54:14:15 - 00:54:14:20
Mark Titus
I.

00:54:14:20 - 00:54:25:15
Hannah Lux
Bet I don't want to hear it anymore. I just want I want, like, people to be happier again and not have all of that. Wait, you know.

00:54:25:17 - 00:54:27:23
Mark Titus
Bring some light, invokes happy stories.

00:54:27:23 - 00:54:36:15
Hannah Lux
Go do something fun outside, but say go get vaccinated and like, live your life and then then let's talk about it.

00:54:36:17 - 00:54:39:10
Mark Titus
All right. What are you reading and what are you watching these days?

00:54:39:11 - 00:55:05:15
Hannah Lux
Well, I'm still trying to work through a book I read in spurts. You know, I have my bonus. Kids are here. They live in Iowa usually, and they're here for the summer, which just means they have less time to read. I mean, I already it comes and goes, right. But I'm reading a book called Don't Touch My Hair, which is very strangely enough.

00:55:05:19 - 00:55:30:14
Hannah Lux
Yeah, So far, so good. I'm still like in the first quarter of it, so it's hard to talk about too much. But it's it's about a woman who is she's half black, half Irish. And about what? That's like having good hair, having bad hair and, you know, cultural appropriation and all kinds of stuff that has to do with hair in that community.

00:55:30:16 - 00:55:31:20
Hannah Lux
So it's really good.

00:55:31:21 - 00:55:47:21
Mark Titus
That is a really interesting topic. And when I had not thought about to this last six months really and started learning more about culture, what about stuff you watch? Are you in anything, movies or series? Why is that? Not To be honest.

00:55:47:23 - 00:56:04:03
Hannah Lux
I'm we've been watching. It's called Shy. It's about a community, basically. And in Chicago an African-American community in Chicago. It's really great show. Where do you think it's on.

00:56:04:03 - 00:56:05:20
Mark Titus
Hulu.

00:56:05:21 - 00:56:14:09
Hannah Lux
So bad at that? I don't know what to Also like we've talked about before, I have this problem where I, I typically fall asleep when we start watching.

00:56:14:11 - 00:56:17:07
Mark Titus
Yes. We share this affliction. Yes.

00:56:17:09 - 00:56:23:20
Hannah Lux
Movie narcolepsy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:23:22 - 00:56:47:00
Mark Titus
My wife's elbows have gotten sharper, I think. Over there. Yeah. Into the ribs. Yeah. Sleeping. Sleeping again. What? No, I'm not. Yes. You woke the dogs up. All right, we're going to jump right into the bonus round. Everybody gets the bonus round and it's really fun. Are you ready? Sure. Okay, so knocking on wood. So I'm going to happen.

00:56:47:00 - 00:56:56:10
Mark Titus
I'm just saying, just in a fantasy world, if your house were burning down, you get everyone you love out, including your animals. What's the one physical thing you take with you?

00:56:56:12 - 00:57:01:21
Hannah Lux
jeez. Nothing.

00:57:01:21 - 00:57:03:19
Mark Titus
I don't care.

00:57:03:21 - 00:57:05:20
Hannah Lux
No.

00:57:05:22 - 00:57:09:03
Mark Titus
Got it. All.

00:57:09:05 - 00:57:10:12
Hannah Lux
Yeah.

00:57:10:14 - 00:57:19:15
Mark Titus
There's. This is good. There's surprisingly a lot of people saying that very thing. And I think that's. That's pretty cool.

00:57:19:17 - 00:57:22:17
Hannah Lux
Well, I think maybe that's another take away from the there.

00:57:22:22 - 00:57:23:06
Mark Titus
I do.

00:57:23:06 - 00:57:30:04
Hannah Lux
Too. I mean, sure, if there are family photos and all kinds of stuff you could scramble to like, grab, but really in the end, doesn't really matter.

00:57:30:09 - 00:57:54:18
Mark Titus
Yeah. All right. We're in Twist the door just a little bit. Now, it's not a physical thing. It's more of an esoteric, spiritual thing. What are the two traits about you? The two things about you that make you Hannah, that you would pull out if you could only take two things.

00:57:54:20 - 00:58:20:12
Hannah Lux
I guess my, my drive. Like when I put my mind to doing something, I do it or I try my best to do it. And just being outgoing and doing things that are scary sometimes like this courageous.

00:58:20:14 - 00:58:40:14
Mark Titus
Q You've done very well, and I've noticed both of those things in you, and I admire them both. Is there anything is one thing that you would leave in the fire behind to be immolated and purified and gone out of your life?

00:58:40:16 - 00:58:43:18
Hannah Lux
Probably my impatience.

00:58:43:20 - 00:59:11:03
Mark Titus
That's one of the big ones on my list, too. I'm with you. All right. You are doing amazing work. And I know it's it's you. You've got people in your studio as well, and you've only got a certain amount of you that you can give around. But like, how do people find what you're doing? How do they get involved in follow you on social and you know, scope out your your boutique.

00:59:11:05 - 00:59:35:06
Hannah Lux
Mostly word of mouth. I mean, that's kind of always been the thing that's I mean, way back in the day, even Donna me that my first boss you know, I built my clientele on word of mouth. You know, get a get a free haircut if you bring me three people, you know, that kind of thing. But also now two people share with their friends and coworkers.

00:59:35:06 - 00:59:59:12
Hannah Lux
You know, she's got an eco friendly salon and, you know, they try to do good for the community and they're great stylists and all that kind of stuff, too. But it's mostly word of mouth. I definitely get people that just stumble on us on on Instagram and stuff, which I still don't really know how that works. I mean, I assume it's through hashtags and stuff, but I don't really know.

00:59:59:14 - 01:00:23:15
Hannah Lux
Like I said before, I'm not super good at that, but and then my website, I try to keep that updated like we have our first, like our welcome page is usually whatever. If we're doing a fundraiser, I'm talking about the fundraiser and whatever we're fundraising for on there. That's where I put all the information for that. We might have a product of the week kind of a thing on there.

01:00:23:16 - 01:00:47:17
Hannah Lux
I have a tab that's totally dedicated to the Green Circle Salon recycling program that we do, and then I have a tab that's dedicated to Black Lives Matter, and I keep that updated on their links on there to different organizations that I think are doing really good work where people can donate. Yeah, so it seems pretty obvious where we stand on all of those things.

01:00:47:17 - 01:00:59:00
Hannah Lux
So we definitely attract people that way. I've had a couple of people come to me and said that they really enjoyed what we shared on the website and that made them want to come in and meet us.

01:00:59:02 - 01:01:05:13
Mark Titus
What's your URL and what are your what's your handle on social? And we'll put these in the show notes. But just for people listening right now.

01:01:05:13 - 01:01:18:19
Hannah Lux
Yeah, we're just like CBD Boutique on Instagram and we're just like CBD Bodycon on the web.

01:01:18:21 - 01:01:29:20
Mark Titus
Hannah Lux, thank you for your courage. Thank you. For 20 years of friendship and the best haircuts a guy could imagine. And and we'll do this again. This is fun.

01:01:29:20 - 01:01:30:17
Hannah Lux
This was fun.

01:01:30:19 - 01:01:40:04
Music
How do you save what you love?
How do you save what you love?

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Mark Titus
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Mark Titus
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